tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8919556824856527344.post2068036403669045688..comments2023-07-29T05:02:27.424-07:00Comments on Glimpses Through The Mist: The Irony of Vapers Supporting Vaping BansKristin Noll-Marshhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15805939875041788133noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8919556824856527344.post-10155025825561978702015-02-08T10:15:44.717-08:002015-02-08T10:15:44.717-08:00There is no justification for general bans / state...There is no justification for general bans / state laws about smoking or vaping on private properties. Every property owner should have the right to decide these rules on his own property. That includes restaurant-owners too, of course and that's why the sign is relevant. Klaus K.http://dengulenegl.dk/blog/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8919556824856527344.post-68374661042210063872015-02-07T21:41:31.132-08:002015-02-07T21:41:31.132-08:00To some extent the "Vapers Supporting Vaping ...To some extent the "Vapers Supporting Vaping Bans" may be fake. While it's easy to see things that aren't really there sometimes, I've been pretty sure that at least the occasional "Smokers Supporting Smoking Bans" posting has been faked. The name, even if not outright anonymous, will have no history, or a fairly clear and fairly short paper-thin history. The phrasings/words used and the "As a smoker I know how it feels..." sort of claims are so plastic that you just *know* in your bones that something's rotten in the state of Denmark (Poor Denmark....).<br /><br />There was just a big push by Anons trying to appear NotAnons on a number of message threads in the New Orleans news outlets, and they were successful, sadly, in getting a number of our active folks bounced and over 300 postings by them erased. <br /><br />Did you know that they've actually poured specific time 'n money into secretly studying how to control the "social media"? I asked one of their researchers, an Australian probably living off Chapman down there, for one of the research papers a few years ago and she responded she'd be happy to send it to me but was curious as to who I was working with. I responded honestly about my independence and background and she instantly cut me dead with an eventual "I have no desire to help you in any way." email. So much for science and impartial research being shared with critics, eh?<br /><br />Your posting here is wonderful. Thank you! You can see an excerpted sample of what I've written about vaping in one of the "Book Selection" readings at http://bit.ly/TobakkoNacht It's specifically an analysis of two of the "Evil Bad Chemicals In Vapor" studies and I think you might find it helpful.<br /><br />Best of luck! Keep on vapin' 'n keep on fightin' !<br /><br />- MJMMichael J. McFaddenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12181949578184965482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8919556824856527344.post-67711731671723260772015-02-07T10:12:11.286-08:002015-02-07T10:12:11.286-08:00Anonymous,
Can you please post a link to your blog...Anonymous,<br />Can you please post a link to your blog?<br />-MikeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8919556824856527344.post-23559321913008784602015-02-07T10:05:33.025-08:002015-02-07T10:05:33.025-08:00Excellent article Kristin Noll-Marsh! Every point...Excellent article Kristin Noll-Marsh! Every point was made with the utmost of credibility. I happen to think that any criticism, is done by someone paid by ANTZ PR firms. Thank you for seamlessly validating the hypocracy of the ilitist ANTI personal choice brigade!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17738607405970508593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8919556824856527344.post-72099729924854614732015-02-07T09:14:12.010-08:002015-02-07T09:14:12.010-08:00I turned on the approval function a few months ago...I turned on the approval function a few months ago because I got sick of having to hunt down and delete the dozens of e-cigarette, viagra, smoking cessation and other spam comments I'd get on my new and old posts every day. On this post, I've already deleted twice as many spam comments as there have been geniune comments. I don't "censor" comments unless they are spam. Sorry if you have a problem with that.<br /><br />I'm not sure why you would call me a "main stream media outlet."<br /><br />So, why do you post anonymously? Why not share who you are and your writings on this topic?Kristin Noll-Marshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15805939875041788133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8919556824856527344.post-65454809399802799632015-02-07T09:08:05.382-08:002015-02-07T09:08:05.382-08:00Well, it IS my blog and my opinions, yes.
The pu...Well, it IS my blog and my opinions, yes. <br /><br />The purpose is to get readers to stop and think of possible unitended consequences of supporting such laws.<br /><br />What facts would you like to see supported? I don't just make shit up, but most people don't follow links or bother to read sources, so I didn't bother. But everything I said has a basis in fact.Kristin Noll-Marshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15805939875041788133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8919556824856527344.post-4373721504760510582015-02-07T03:53:33.111-08:002015-02-07T03:53:33.111-08:00Ha, the comments would need approved on this blog....Ha, the comments would need approved on this blog. Censorship at its finest. Will see if my last reply makes the cut. If not, guess ill have to blog about how much this blog is fake and only publishes what it wants, like all the other main stream media outlets, either way, it would be a win-win for me as it would gives me something more to write about. Take care.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8919556824856527344.post-85865373933036180192015-02-07T03:41:54.550-08:002015-02-07T03:41:54.550-08:00I see you stating a lot of information with no cre...I see you stating a lot of information with no creditable sources. Link your sources to the studies and please never use the "what if" scenarios in your argument, all that did was make your argument look weak as social engineering is only suitable for the weak minded. So, stop trying to change the viewers opinion or prespective based on bullshit what if's. I see no facts anywhere in this article. I guess you just expect us to just take your world for it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8919556824856527344.post-80845972406109801002015-02-06T19:43:40.274-08:002015-02-06T19:43:40.274-08:00Of course I'm not fan of the no vaping sign, b...Of course I'm not fan of the no vaping sign, but it's a better alternative to a law banning use everywhere. I also believe in the rights of property and business owners. As much as they should be allowed to choose to allow vaping, they should be allowed to ask people not vape.<br /><br />I think I was pretty clear about my opinion on second-hand smoke being low risk. I never said it was high risk only that the risk was higher in long-term home exposures, where they found a significant (statistically) risk. "Statistically significant" doesn't mean "high" just that it's a real increase in risk as opposed to the statically insignificant increase they found with public second hand smoke (and tried to pretend it was a significant risk.)<br /><br />I agree with your feelings about the war of the ANTZ and personal freedom, but after trying to make those points with these vape-ban vapers, I found those arguments either fell on ignorant ears (ie. still brainwashed) or it just didn't move them. So I chose arguments that are easier for those types to understand. (Really, anyone who would "get" those arguments wouldn't need to hear all of the points I made in this article, don't you think? lol)Kristin Noll-Marshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15805939875041788133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8919556824856527344.post-5710140656733023092015-02-06T15:00:06.187-08:002015-02-06T15:00:06.187-08:00If I could hug you I would for writing this articl...If I could hug you I would for writing this article and articulating it as well as you did.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8919556824856527344.post-10351044326173362392015-02-06T14:24:03.253-08:002015-02-06T14:24:03.253-08:00Great article! I hope that it gets through to the ...Great article! I hope that it gets through to the vapers who seem to believe we don't deserve the same freedom and rights others are afforded!Debhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12743257559559809673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8919556824856527344.post-52689057691946034722015-02-06T14:22:39.653-08:002015-02-06T14:22:39.653-08:00Opposing vaping bans is the right thing to do. And...Opposing vaping bans is the right thing to do. And I didn`t expect some arguments. Are you really fond of a "No smoking" sign which includes e-cigarettes? And do you really believe in the high risk of 2nd-hand-smoke? And my main point against vaping bans is neither risk nor THR but the war of the ANTZ on personal freedom. <br />Phönixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11679016781190518573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8919556824856527344.post-42438897080247773532015-02-06T13:21:26.022-08:002015-02-06T13:21:26.022-08:00I agree completely and do not understand where the...I agree completely and do not understand where they are coming from , what world in fact . Big taxes will follow these bans . Who will they blame then , its no ones fault but theirs period . I'm so mad I got 6 sites i was on because they thought nothing wrong with bans . Wake up vapors ! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8919556824856527344.post-36159009681200267832015-02-06T13:05:38.046-08:002015-02-06T13:05:38.046-08:00I have a Story. A few Years ago I Quit Smoking by ...I have a Story. A few Years ago I Quit Smoking by Switching to Chewing Tobacco. In the past having seen the Public Health Tobacco Control Propaganda Photos of People with only half a face left[from Oral Cancer]I worried every day of those 2 years I would get oral cancer. As I transitioned to Vapor Products and Advocacy my Research revealed there is only 10% the chance of getting a form of Oral Cancer from Chewing Tobacco as from Smoking Cigarettes! That was a Watershed Moment in my Life. I realized PH has Out and Out lied about Reduced Risk Nicotine Products and has for Years. For that 2 yrs of daily fear Tobacco Control caused for me,I will fight to expose their lies as long as I am mentally-Physically able to [Hopefully 20 yrs or more,I am 59] I Now believe that Public Health- Tobacco Control Hands are as Dirty as Big Tobacco Companies ever were! Tobacco Companies lying about Cigarette health risks was outlawed yrs ago ,but Tobacco Control has free rein to Lie and distort in the Guise of the Public Good, to Promote the prohibitions agenda and keep the cigarette Tax based and Big Pharma Revenue Rolling in.roosterado9https://www.blogger.com/profile/07546356427898795064noreply@blogger.com